Issele wrote:BUMPN wrote:so the truth comes out.... you have been drug along by Issele
all i see on the forums is yall defending yourselves and thats fine.... I too would support my guild all day everyday!
but it all comes down to the fact that.... you have all been misled, as i told the new IMPHL ex RID members WE WERE DONE DIRTY BY ISSELE!
SZUL if you care to shut your mouth long enough to hear the full story instead of acting like a RL badass on these forums u can contact me anytime....
Lexx.... i have given u the story behind my distate for RID more then once, but you are too closed minded to even consider it! I have sat back and watched as you have twisted my words and manipulated them to your be and nefit..... for instance when you where told about the IMPHL core... your post said that i told you "IMPHL WOULD LEAD THE CORE AND NO RP'ERS WOULD BE ALLOWED!" .... this is a flat out lie and you know that!
i said we would start a core for PVP anyone be them rp'ers or strict pvpers it doesnt matter.... anyone was welcome to join it! and another point i stressed was THIS IS NOT A CORE LED BY IMPHL but a network of alliances where everyone is equal and IMPHL will be a member in the core that they will start
.... up until i seen this post i had alot of respect for lexx, he is far more mature then I would have ever expected from someone his age.... but after that post! /thumbsdown
this whole beef between IMPHL and RID was not started by IMPHL! Yes we did drag it out a little and maybe over react in a couple cases.... but it began with ISSELE and her EGO! my whole guild was misled by her to believe that she was the leader of the core and she ran it with an iron fist.... to my own suprise lexx revealed that the core was run by all guilds equal!
we were told by issele that all victories by former greats such as Nos and Axis were won by her supreme tactic and the "Network" that she runs....
after sitting in NOS's TeamSpeak for an hour or so.... i mentioned this idea to Stridder and STL... and thier responce (and i quote) "who the fuck is issele?"
after talking to old axis memebers i have learned that they did in fact join her network... they stuck around for about a week and decided it was useless and left and cut all ties...
i cant prove this and i dont expect you to believe me... but ive been bugging lexx to let me in yalls vent alone, for some time so that i could give my side of the story....
i dont mind being flamed here, or being called a liar... i dont mind at all simply because i have told my side of the story and i know for a fact it is true! and if you choose not to believe me thats up to you!
SZUL you are the worst form of hipocrit! how are u going to call us exploiters and griefers then say that you will exploit sher kar to come get us? Well buddy ill see you tonight at the tounry!
Issele you are the worst kind of liar and fake! You claimed for so long to be the most hardcore imp and imp guild.... then you go rebel ROFL! plus u said repeatedly how rebels need to die and so on... then i have pics of you on leave tickling them while pvping... and to go even further u have a post on here where u stated you would hire rebels as mercanaries to kill us? Very hardcore rebel!
Lexx.... you have been misled by issele, and i really really DO hate to do this... but I TOLD YOU SO! dude i called it out, told u she was up trga's ass.... you guys are called by 90% of IMP pvp'rs as rebels in disguise, and i wanted nothing more then peace and an alliance and pvp but lies and manipulation wouldnt allow it... im very dissapointed that you twisted my words in that post but... oh well nothing i can do!
my story is told!
FLAME ON GUYS ..... or LETS MOVE ON
its really up to yall
You want the truth... here it is:
Its kind of hard to believe your stance on Role-players when at the last event we had IMPHL members were spanning" ALL Role-players leave Starsider! Role-players DO NOT belong on OUR server. Followed by constant griefing of Role-player guilds on this server by IMPHL.
I was never the leader of the Core. My part in the Core was to do events and bring Imperial guilds together. What I did for the Core, The Network I did FOR the leaders of this allaince many worked hard to build. Carine founded the Network. If anyone was its leader, it would have been him. I did nothing in the Network without the approve of ALL the leaders in the Network because that is how it was and I has happy it was like that. I was even leary about being one of the Mods on the fourms but the leaders wanted me too so I said ok.
Show me ONE place where I evenr posted or claimed to be leader of the Core. We did not want to see the Core die so some of us worked our butts off to try to not let it die and I faught tooth and nail to not let it die. Show me ONE place, ever I said I lead the Core. I was a Rep of the Core, an Diplomate and worked 3 years doing events for us.
Show screenshots and Logs please of what you claim I said about NoS and XFOR and who ever else. Post em here please. I told you who were members of the Past Network and I TOLD you if you look in the movie RID made you could see for youself. ITS ALL IN THAT MOVIE OF THE FIRST CONFERNCE. What I said was that Role-playing guilds and pvp guilds COULD work together and that was the proof how we ALL use to team up for the same cause, to fight rebels. Do you really listen to what I say or is this just all a issue where you misunderstood me and just assmumed what I said instead of checking it out with me? Why in the hell would I say something I could not back up when ALL the Conferences were flimed of who was there and who was not? What would it matter anyways? But you want to twist something into a lie. In the 3 years the Network/Core was active NOT one time did anything like this happen except with IMPHL. All the Core/Network guilds never had a issue with each other or bashed each other. You need to take a look at that fact.
When IMPHL left the Network and posted about it on Starsider boards, a lot of guilds in the Network were upset about that post and IMPHL. I asked if I could meet with IMPHL and work out any issues and the Network guilds said yes. I did not have to do this but volenteered to do it because I gave a damn. I really wanted to fix any issues we had and bring Imperial Network back together like it once was with IMPHL a part of it and for that matter, ALL Imperial guilds. Many of us met about this and honestly wanted to fix this. Ask Lexx, ask SHC, ask WAVE, ask THM.
I meet with you guys for two hours and you told me that the reason you all left the Network was that you did not feel a part of the Network and felt you were ignored and picked on. I sat there for 2 hours and listened and did this because I see myself as a nobody but just someone who really cared and you can ask anyone in the Network that 99% of the stuff I have done in the past was for other people and not me. Many of the events I did I was in the background and others where in the sporlight.
We spoke that night for 2 hours on Dantooine and we came up with some ideas to bring IMPHL and RID closers. I even asked if you guys would be willing to help RID with some pvp training and you said yes. We left that night on good terms and with a lot events planned to bring us together and all Imperial guilds. And to bring IMPHL back. You can not say this is not the truth.
The next day I got a /tell from you asking if I could come into IMPHL vent to talk. I told you I was not feeling good and could we do it another night. You said ok and next thing I got a /tell from one of your members saying I suck, RID sucks and Lexx sucks. Your member said he had 1/3 of the vote and his vote was to have nothing to do with RID, Network and that Lexx, me and RID were a joke. I told your member I was not feeling well and could we please talk about this later. This came out of the blue after the 2 hour talk we had the night before that I really wanted to fix all this. I sent Lexx the logs of all this. Every since this IMPHL has bashed me left and right. The night we meet for 2 hours I did nothing but try my best to solve these issues and if you may have noticed I was the only one who came forward to try to solve this after you guys made that -I am leaving the Network- post. Most of the Imperial guilds wanted to wash there hands of IMPHL but after you shared with me how IMPHL felt and why you guys pulled out, did not I sit there with you for 2 hours working on ways to bring us all together. Show me one place before this that I have trashed IMPHL.
After the meeting where I showed I gave a damn, since that day I have been griefed by IMPHL and so has RID. Your claims are unfounded and cannot be supported because they are not true. Talk to me, come to me and sit down with me, Lexx and few more and lets talk about the truth, work this out once and for all. I can show you tons of screen shots I have been sent, I have taken how IMPHL has gone out of thier way to spread hate about me. Lets get at the truth here.
Right after that meeting is when IMPHL began to grief RID any chance you guys got IG, on the Forums and even our own boards. Do you relaize that RID took it upon themselfs to TRY to work it out right after you guys posted on the boards about the Network? Did any other guild come to you like we did? But we sure have gotten treated like shit for it. You want statictics: 90% of the Imperial guilds wanted IMPHL kicked out of the Network before you guys left once you started all that crap with OC on the forums. A few of us said, let em work it out between themselves and many of us were glad when OC and IMPHL became friends. Then it seemed your next target was RID because I stepped forward and met with IMPHL to try to work things out. This is the truth and this is what happened. You say IMPHL felt left out of the Network? Try being a part of the team and not bashing people all the time and maybe, just maybe all this may stop. Oh you can keep bashing me if you want, I can take it. Just know this Bumpn, the truth does come out in the end. I can back up everything I say because I AM telling the truth.
2 days after getting out of ICU and the hospital when I got back home and logged into SWG I was in the Cantina helping a new players and IMPHL comes in and starts spanning : Issele likes 15 year old boys everyone beware. The new player sent me /tell asking who you all were. I said just ignore them. The new player wanted to meet a rebel guild , Xaneth walked in and I told the guy to talk to Xaneth. IMPHL kept bashing role-players, spanning crap about my char. I sent Rogue a /tell and asked if if they could stop, that this guy was new to SWG, Rogue replied back: Oh we are just role-playing and you guys kept spanning: Issele does 15 year olds... and you wonder why people have a issue with IMPHL???? I let you guys get to me that night cos I was still sick, Dude get a clue, I was in ICU for 4 days! Xaneth told me to just ignore you guys and we even moved to the other side of the Cantina, but did IMPHL stop? No, you guys kept at it. I logged out. You won. Never saw that new player again.... TRUE STORY
What the hell is your problem?
Do you REALLY want to slove this once and for all? Then step up and meet with me Lexx and any people you want there. I will log everything that is said and post it here. You want to get at the truth once and for all, work this out so we can get beyound this? I offering that to you in a sincere manner. Balls in your court. Heck why not invite the whole community since just yesterday you posted a long list of guilds IMPHL has had issues with. Ask youself why is it IMPHL has had so many issues with 90% of the guilds on Starsider? Is it them or maybe is it the way IMPHL tries to communicate with others? I am not saying this to be mean I am saying this that you really need to look at that. IMPHL is great at PVP, everyone knows that. But your people skills sucks. You can do 100 things good but do one thing wrong and one thing wrong is what people will see and judge you buy, not the 100 good.
