The Imperial Summit?

Theep · Post by **Theep** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:58 pm

I think Bizob should go, because A. I know he wont start anything, B. I know hes not hated by anyone but rebels and me (jk) and C. If issele went we would be taking a step back in making progress with imphl, and if I heard imphl said another thing negative to issele...
I think it would be a good idea to send apium because he was in imphl not to long ago, but I also think its a bad idea for that reason. 1 is to little 3 is to many.
Just my 32 cents[/url]

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:13 pm

Theep wrote:I think Bizob should go, because A. I know he wont start anything, B. I know hes not hated by anyone but rebels and me (jk) and C. If issele went we would be taking a step back in making progress with imphl, and if I heard imphl said another thing negative to issele...
I think it would be a good idea to send apium because he was in imphl not to long ago, but I also think its a bad idea for that reason. 1 is to little 3 is to many.
Just my 32 cents[/url]

If IMPH is going to act out it was already stated that anyone causing a disturbance would be removed. IMPH is actually not hosting this. They will be guest just as we will. There slander to me this past Sunday at AH was actually geared towards: role-players, The Network, and RID. I ignored them, shuttled away and ended the event.

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:50 pm

We already have the representative people Theep.

No offense theep but you should stick to killing stuff with big guns and leave the politics to other people. (I can say that cause I know him in real life.)

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:16 pm

Sending Issele is definitely controversial... but I wish for it to be done for a reason. The reason being is so we can finally see if IMPHL wishes to actually help the Empire, or use Issele as a target.

I wont be able to go, because I'll be on a short vacation. I already contacted the person who made the invitate via PM, and he seemed understanding and was willing to have three people attend. He will contact the three people in-game with details on the wherabouts and time.

Dragonus · Post by **Dragonus** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:27 pm

if only i could log D= damn report card!!!! i could enter under vanish with 100 camo and check things out o.0 if anything goes wrong *poof* a 4th member :lol:

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:05 pm

I am not sure I can make it Friday. I have been sick and most likey may be in the hospital Friday. If I can't be there, to log the conference, just type /log and it will log all chat in your area. The log is saved in your SWG files. I also think, and would like your alls feedback on this, that it may be a nice suggestion that we make a statement that we wipe the slate clean with IMPH and start fresh. It's only a suggestion to try to really bring Imperials together. I will say that in my view RID has done nothing wrong to warrent the backlash from IMPH. I just hate there being any conflict at all on this server. :cry:

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:22 am

I don't see the slate ever being cleaned. Apparantly the some IMPHL were verbally bashing RID at while hanging around Menesix again tonight. I guess a couple RID were passing through Map Room and they started babbling trash about RID when they saw them. I forget who mentioned it over /gu, but I know that Morin had been there with a couple others when I'd passed thru earlier.

Straight up, you can't make peace with PVP griefers. They have too much fun causing problems and talking shit. Good relations will not begin until IMPHL removes the bad apples. You've already said that Reirae has lost all control, so whats he going to do other than use his /guildremove powers like he should have already done?

This is a IMPHL house keeping issue, its just not RID's.

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:53 am

Szul wrote:I don't see the slate ever being cleaned. Apparantly the some IMPHL were verbally bashing RID at while hanging around Menesix again tonight. I guess a couple RID were passing through Map Room and they started babbling trash about RID when they saw them. I forget who mentioned it over /gu, but I know that Morin had been there with a couple others when I'd passed thru earlier.

Straight up, you can't make peace with PVP griefers. They have too much fun causing problems and talking shit. Good relations will not begin until IMPHL removes the bad apples. You've already said that Reirae has lost all control, so whats he going to do other than use his /guildremove powers like he should have already done?

This is a IMPHL house keeping issue, its just not RID's.

Your right and come to think of it Reirae has not even been online since last week. I think he knows IMPH is in bad shape. Someone told me IMPH had said they might leave the server. I think they should at this point cos after they admitted to the exploit it's down hill it seems for anyone wanting to have anything to do with them.

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:02 am

I think we should at least make an effort to wipe the slate clean. It makes us look very good if we at least attempt.

Also can you give me a list of names and any chat logs/screenshots you have for the incident at mensix.

Also reirae has been on his alt reirae' for the last week. I'll be sure to forward him the names of his members who were at mensix.

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:11 am

It's worth a try to start anew, even if does futile.

Nonetheless, dont worry if you cannot make it or not Issele, Apium will be able to log the event while Bizob discusses.

Also Reirae is a nice guy, but he isn't doing much to help IMPHL last time I checked. I just dont think he's taking initiate and removing the bad members without mercy.

matron · Post by **matron** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:23 am

Dragonus wrote:if only i could log D= damn report card!!!! i could enter under vanish with 100 camo and check things out o.0 if anything goes wrong *poof* a 4th member

make that a 5th member, already offered that option to lexx,...........poser :evil:

lol j/k hurry up and get in game so we can start stealth tactic training with the medics.

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:36 pm

Apium wrote:I think we should at least make an effort to wipe the slate clean. It makes us look very good if we at least attempt.

Also can you give me a list of names and any chat logs/screenshots you have for the incident at mensix.

Also reirae has been on his alt reirae' for the last week. I'll be sure to forward him the names of his members who were at mensix.

This will be attempt #3 to "make peace". That is why I say it is futile to bother further. I am well aware that you have strong ties, but I think that may be clouding your acceptance that further attempts at any type of peace is a lost cause. RID is not instigating anything with IMPHL or the rest of the server, but certain IMPHL members are.

This is not a RID vs. IMHPL issue. This is an internal issue that IMPHL needs to deal with. As far as names, (come on, do you honestly think that IMPHL has no idea who their troublemakers are???) or chat logs, screenshots, etc., no I do have any nor will I bother with getting any. Thats not my responsibility, its the responsibility of the IMPHL leadership if they are honestly serious about taking action.

Again, this is an internal IMPHL issue that Rei needs to deal with if he's unhappy with things, its just not RID's problem, nor is it a problem that is confined to attacking only RID. They attack the entire server. How do I know this? Because sometimes I like to AFK in public places a lot and do nothing but watch spatial. Any of you can do that too, even Rei can do that. And if anyone does, they will notice that Morin, Telica and other IMPHLs will hang around Menesix Map Room quite often in the evenings antagonizing passerbys, and often Revan/Subliminal (I know he is DS) is right there joining in.

I am ranting about this right now only because I am sick and tired of hearing about it. There is absolutely no reason why RID should be involved in another PA's internal problems, much less even be responding to a bunch of griefers who happen to be wearing a particular guildtag. Its pointless, and it does not make us look good or bad, one way or the other.

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:40 pm

LexxYovel wrote:It's worth a try to start anew, even if does futile.

Nonetheless, dont worry if you cannot make it or not Issele, Apium will be able to log the event while Bizob discusses.

Also Reirae is a nice guy, but he isn't doing much to help IMPHL last time I checked. I just dont think he's taking initiate and removing the bad members without mercy.

They removed Reirae as leader of IMPH and the way Bumpn explained it to me is each member of IMPH is a leader who holds a 1/3 vote. So under that new guide, Reirae only holds also 1/3 of a vote as to what IMPH does. He no longer is the leader. Bumpn told me this in Reirae's presence.

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:49 pm

Issele wrote:
LexxYovel wrote:It's worth a try to start anew, even if does futile.

Nonetheless, dont worry if you cannot make it or not Issele, Apium will be able to log the event while Bizob discusses.

Also Reirae is a nice guy, but he isn't doing much to help IMPHL last time I checked. I just dont think he's taking initiate and removing the bad members without mercy.

They removed Reirae as leader of IMPH and the way Bumpn explained it to me is each member of IMPH is a leader who holds a 1/3 vote. So under that new guide, Reirae only holds also 1/3 of a vote as to what IMPH does. He no longer is the leader. Bumpn told me this in Reirae's presence.

Issele if that is true then I am done reasoning with IMPHL, Reirae was the only honorable member they had with him gone IMPHL is a lost cause.

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:08 pm

Issele wrote:They removed Reirae as leader of IMPH and the way Bumpn explained it to me is each member of IMPH is a leader who holds a 1/3 vote. So under that new guide, Reirae only holds also 1/3 of a vote as to what IMPH does. He no longer is the leader. Bumpn told me this in Reirae's presence.

Thats goofy. So did they actually use the PA election system to vote Reirae out of Leader position?

If not, and that was me, I'd be dropping people like flies starting with the ones who tried to coup against me. I dont know if I've mentioned this, but I had a similar coup attempt against me on Sunrunner many years ago, but I had an alt who had Guild Leader status that no one knew about and I logged it in and cleaned house. Actually after I kicked thost that I wanted to send a message to, I disbanded the PA because they thought they were going to get back in after I was done and then kick me out.

I was the Guild Founder, but I had given Guild Leader status to two members. One left to go Imperial, and the other quit the game and gave his account to one of the "troublemakers" and they thought they had me out-voted and were planning to oust me from Leadership and create some dumbass equality system just like IMPHL has done.

So if Rei has his hand in the Disband button, he is not removed from power... he is simply allowing this to continue. Trust me, I know exactly how hard it is to disband your PA. I was damn near in tears as I did it, but it was for the best. I just chose not to rebuild because I wanted to switch from Rebel to Imperial and I wanted Waelwulfas <WW> to be remembered as a Rebel PA legend.