The Imperial Summit?
Moderator:Lexx Yovel
- Lexx Yovel
- RID Leader/Mayor
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LexxYovel wrote:I spoke with Bumpn and he made it seem like IMPHL was forming this new Network. As far as I can tell, OC simply made an invite post.
What IMPH told me in AH was they will make a Imperial Network that THEY will lead and it will ban any role-players from being a part of it. The spanned that Role-players should be banned from all MMPOGS. With them yelling this out ig I got a ton of /tells from Imperial Guilds who said they want no part of IMPH and there Network, speically when IMPH was spanning: IMPH is best IMP PA of all Time. But yeah I will go for RID. I will be nice too. I also found it funny they listed NS with NS has gone rebel and left out THM from the list.
- Lexx Yovel
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I also found out why IMPH has rebels in there guild. What they are doing is adding alts and making them rebel SF, then they kill them over and over to gain planet FP which IMO is pretty low and under handed. They are admitting this on the SS boards. I am all for the Imperials owning planets but not by exploiting a system. To me this is cheap and more I see from IMPH and what they are doing the less I even want to have anything to do with them. Speically after the comments they have made against RID and now this... to me they are cheaters. I also would not be a bit surprised if they end up turning on OC to war again.
NoS was a great pvp guild and they were good but the one thing they never did was war there own faction. They would leave Starsider and form a rebel PA on another server just to hold to there honor here on Starsider. I respected NoS for that. I will say it again, IMPH has no honor and will war anyone they can and they start by slinging insults trying to piss off any guild they can, any faction they can, just to pvp.
What I do for the Network is work events they want to have. I put the time and effort in this to bring the Network together and this is a position I was voted into a long time ago. I don't run the Network. Every guild IN the Network runs the Network and the guilds in it, now this. That is why we are able to get them together. We have a proven track record and the Network knows it.
I will be glad when IMPH turns on itself and disbans.
NoS was a great pvp guild and they were good but the one thing they never did was war there own faction. They would leave Starsider and form a rebel PA on another server just to hold to there honor here on Starsider. I respected NoS for that. I will say it again, IMPH has no honor and will war anyone they can and they start by slinging insults trying to piss off any guild they can, any faction they can, just to pvp.
What I do for the Network is work events they want to have. I put the time and effort in this to bring the Network together and this is a position I was voted into a long time ago. I don't run the Network. Every guild IN the Network runs the Network and the guilds in it, now this. That is why we are able to get them together. We have a proven track record and the Network knows it.
I will be glad when IMPH turns on itself and disbans.
Been trying to stay mostly quiet about this, but I have to agree with Apium's comments. I also recommend sending Bizob, because something is just not feeling warm and fuzzy with this invite to their Summit deal. I've listened to the way bumpn and the others talk about Issele and RID in spatial, when they are hanging around, and it is very derogatory. So if they are running this Summit, then something just is not right.
Call me old and paranoid, but I know PVP griefers quite well... I used to be one... My gut feeling is that they want to get Issele in front of the PVP guilds for a negative purpose, and nailing RID's rep in the process is a bonus. Plus not sending Issele would be sending some strong messages in our favor.
I know you want to go Issele, but when I peek into my darkside and consider what I would be trying to do if I were them... well, lets just say I have strong concerns.
Call me old and paranoid, but I know PVP griefers quite well... I used to be one... My gut feeling is that they want to get Issele in front of the PVP guilds for a negative purpose, and nailing RID's rep in the process is a bonus. Plus not sending Issele would be sending some strong messages in our favor.
I know you want to go Issele, but when I peek into my darkside and consider what I would be trying to do if I were them... well, lets just say I have strong concerns.
- Lexx Yovel
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That's *exactly* what I am thinking. It's very bizzare. I'm expecting that if RID reps are going to arrive, they are going to spend their time harrassing them. All it will do is allow us to take pictures of IMPHL acting badly.
I dont see how they can insult RID one minute, and then invite us to a Summit meeting the next.
I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
If the insults go too far, simply take a picture of the logs, stand up, and exit the building without saying a word. The only guild that has a problem with Issele is IMPHL. *Every* other guild, both Rebel and Imperial have a large respect for Issele and what she has done event wise for both PvP and the RP community.
Apium also wanted to attend for pure observational reasons. He is a former IMPHL member, so I dont think they'll mind.
I dont see how they can insult RID one minute, and then invite us to a Summit meeting the next.
I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
If the insults go too far, simply take a picture of the logs, stand up, and exit the building without saying a word. The only guild that has a problem with Issele is IMPHL. *Every* other guild, both Rebel and Imperial have a large respect for Issele and what she has done event wise for both PvP and the RP community.
Apium also wanted to attend for pure observational reasons. He is a former IMPHL member, so I dont think they'll mind.
my advice:
RID gets together with the other imperials guilds in the galaxy and agree to hold a trial. RID+Other Imperial Guilds v IMPHL. Basically, have the court be the city hall in Fort Oasis or maybe outside of the City hall. You are going to need a neutral judge though, because the trial should be fair. Basiaclly, Issele or Lexx would be the prosecuting attorney and whoever is in ImpHl or wants to defend them will be the defending attorney.....anyone else wanna build on the idea?
RID gets together with the other imperials guilds in the galaxy and agree to hold a trial. RID+Other Imperial Guilds v IMPHL. Basically, have the court be the city hall in Fort Oasis or maybe outside of the City hall. You are going to need a neutral judge though, because the trial should be fair. Basiaclly, Issele or Lexx would be the prosecuting attorney and whoever is in ImpHl or wants to defend them will be the defending attorney.....anyone else wanna build on the idea?
LexxYovel wrote:That's *exactly* what I am thinking. It's very bizzare. I'm expecting that if RID reps are going to arrive, they are going to spend their time harrassing them. All it will do is allow us to take pictures of IMPHL acting badly.
I dont see how they can insult RID one minute, and then invite us to a Summit meeting the next.
I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
If the insults go too far, simply take a picture of the logs, stand up, and exit the building without saying a word. The only guild that has a problem with Issele is IMPHL. *Every* other guild, both Rebel and Imperial have a large respect for Issele and what she has done event wise for both PvP and the RP community.
Apium also wanted to attend for pure observational reasons. He is a former IMPHL member, so I dont think they'll mind.
I will go if you would like too and Rp for RID.
LexxYovel wrote:That's *exactly* what I am thinking. It's very bizzare. I'm expecting that if RID reps are going to arrive, they are going to spend their time harrassing them. All it will do is allow us to take pictures of IMPHL acting badly.
I dont see how they can insult RID one minute, and then invite us to a Summit meeting the next.
I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
If the insults go too far, simply take a picture of the logs, stand up, and exit the building without saying a word. The only guild that has a problem with Issele is IMPHL. *Every* other guild, both Rebel and Imperial have a large respect for Issele and what she has done event wise for both PvP and the RP community.
Apium also wanted to attend for pure observational reasons. He is a former IMPHL member, so I dont think they'll mind.
Lexx did say you Issele. Bizob, you, and me.
matron wrote:so we are avoiding confrontation? damn. well, ill be happy to be near by for backup regardless. they wont know im there dont worry
Its not avoiding confrontation, its a game of politics. This is PVP on a whole different level.
CerexHendrix wrote:my advice:
RID gets together with the other imperials guilds in the galaxy and agree to hold a trial. RID+Other Imperial Guilds v IMPHL. Basically, have the court be the city hall in Fort Oasis or maybe outside of the City hall. You are going to need a neutral judge though, because the trial should be fair. Basiaclly, Issele or Lexx would be the prosecuting attorney and whoever is in ImpHl or wants to defend them will be the defending attorney.....anyone else wanna build on the idea?
Good intent, not so good idea. This has possibility of projecting RID as wanting to be a Imperial dictatorship to other smaller Imp PAs that might be on the fence regarding taking a side on this problem. Its bad politics, sometimes the indirect approaches work best.... they never see it coming until its too late.
LexxYovel wrote:I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
Interesting perspective, seems a bit risky on paper, but just might work out. If she doesn't mind being the target of an attempted political assassination, then I say go for it. I'm most curious to see what they are up to anyway.
Apium wrote:LexxYovel wrote:That's *exactly* what I am thinking. It's very bizzare. I'm expecting that if RID reps are going to arrive, they are going to spend their time harrassing them. All it will do is allow us to take pictures of IMPHL acting badly.
I dont see how they can insult RID one minute, and then invite us to a Summit meeting the next.
I'd like just three people to go... I want Bizob to go to discuss (as he is very easy to get along with), and Issele will go to log the event. I expect Issele will recieve some form of hate from IMPHL members, but if Issele sits quietly it will only backfire and make IMPHL look bad. Call me crazy, but I think if we sent Issele, it'd make it seem like Issele isn't some dictator as they claim her to be. This is why I'd like her to go, and simply log the event, or speak only when absolutely neccesary. I feel it is inevitable that they are going to trash RID, but all it will do is destroy their own Network, and IMPHL's reputation in front of a lot of other Imperial guilds.
If the insults go too far, simply take a picture of the logs, stand up, and exit the building without saying a word. The only guild that has a problem with Issele is IMPHL. *Every* other guild, both Rebel and Imperial have a large respect for Issele and what she has done event wise for both PvP and the RP community.
Apium also wanted to attend for pure observational reasons. He is a former IMPHL member, so I dont think they'll mind.
Lexx did say you Issele. Bizob, you, and me.
Where do you guys want to meet up at? Do we have a location yet? The time will be Friday 7pm est. I will log it as asked. I do plan to go with an open mind.