Anti-RID Propaganda

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:16 pm

Reirae is a great guy, but it's Bumpn that seems to be irresponsible. Reirae and I have been good friends, and IMPHL and RID had been strong allies. But like you said, Reirae is quiet, and it feels like Bumpn is taking charge...

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:22 pm

LexxYovel wrote:When I typed RID was THE Imperial guild it wasn't my intention to make other guilds feel weak. It could of meant RID was THE Imperial guild for brewing jawa beer.

It was a mistake on my part, but IMPHL had no excuse to harass RID in-game, especially since it wasn't even directed to any guild in particular. They could have expressed their concerns privately.. fortunately that's what we did, and IMPHL didn't bother RID later that evening.

I hope to mend any further issues, however.

They certainly did not have any excuse. IMPHL is displaying a perfect example of what a pisspoor Imperial PA is, and I think you've handled the situation very well.

I just wanted to comment that we should all be careful in how we promote RID's recruitment image to the community, and make sure that we avoid giving insult to the other Imperial PAs. Look at IMPHL... they are doing everything that we should not, in their recruiting and behavioral methods.

Personally, it came down to a choice between joining IMPHL or RID. I think I made the right choice and can say that I am glad I did not join IMPHL regardless of what they can do in PVE or PVP. I despise mickeymouse PAs that their leaders can't control.

Laico · Post by **Laico** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:24 pm

Maybe there should be a 'Summit of Imperial Leaders', to air out all of the differences and get our 'dirty laundry' cleaned up. We need to present a united Imperial front. The Core is a great area to organize this, but IMPHL has been bashing the Core for days now and have told me personally they have no respect for it. But a Summit to get all of the leaders together, will go a long way to iron out our differences.

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:28 pm

I will definitely need remodle our recruitment methods and make sure our recruitments only aim against Rebels, and not other Imperials.

And yeah, the IMPHL bashed the CORE and the CORE basically lost all/most respect for IMPHL. Now the IMPHL feels they aren't being noticed. I told Bumpn he shouldn't have even spoke about the CORE in public, and he was surprised, and claimed he didn't know that he should of. He apologized for that, and said he didn't even KNOW there were CORE forums. So it was a huge misunderstanding from the start... basically IMPHL aren't "evil," they are just a tad hasty.

I dont know if IMPHL will stay in the CORE or not, but that isn't my place to decide. In either case, I intend to strengthen relationships with any Imperial guild, whether they are in the CORE or not. Your Imperial summit is a good idea. Hopefully the Imperial fete Issele has planned will patch things up as well.

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:28 pm

LexxYovel wrote:Reirae is a great guy, but it's Bumpn that seems to be irresponsible. Reirae and I have been good friends, and IMPHL and RID had been strong allies. But like you said, Reirae is quiet, and it feels like Bumpn is taking charge...

Well its possible that Bumpn is building the PA for Rei, so Rei just gives him enough rope that borders on hanging himself. IMPHL was making feeble attempts at rebuilding when I was LFG, now all the sudden BOOM!! they are all over the scene.

Nice guy or not, I still have no respect for a GL that loses control of his guild. I've been there before and let the wrong person take charge, a couple times actually, but at least I stepped in and took charge when things started to spiral out of control.

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:32 pm

IMPHL was deinitely one of the lesser know guilds. I will get Bumpn credit, he *really* turned IMPHL from a weaker guild into a reputable guild. The only thing they lack is a respectable personality.

I have no idea where Reirae is, but I need to speak to him. When I spoke to Reirae earlier, he admitted to Bumpn fueling too many arguments. The reason Reirae probably doesn't inflict punishment is probably because he made the guild grow.

Laico · Post by **Laico** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:15 pm

Well Lexx. Just remember OC is not an anti-Imperial guild. Quite the opposite actually. We're a fairly new guild, but growing and very active in the GCW. I have full respect for you and RID. Even though i'm not in RID anymore, when I see RID bashing going on, I take it personal. You have my full support, and OC's as well. Just let us know when and if you need any help. Feel free to post on our forums as well, address is below.

/salute

OC Forum:
http://www.aokforums.com/forums/?mforum=spacejedi

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:31 pm

Thanks for the support Laico!

We'll do our best do the same for you. I'll also register a username on your forums.

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:24 pm

I spoke to Reirae last night and he is still in command of IMPH. He had taken a break from the game and is back. We all need breaks now and then. He is aware there were some issues while he was away and plans to resolve them.

I agree with Szul on that we do not need to post counter-propaganda any where about RID. I believe and always will, if any member of any PA/Guild has an issue with another PA for any reason, that person should take it to there PA leaders to handle. Back when The Network was around and the year I was a part of it none of these issues ever accured. We had mature leaders whom only recruited mature players. I do not believe in posting issues on public forums.

RID has a long respectful history and what people will think about RID will be what they see RID members doing in the actual game.

When I play SWG, I always keep in mind that my direct actions in the game, on the SWG Offical Forums will always reflect back on the PA I am in.

I see some PA's lately who appear to me that they are trying to become the next NoS PA ( though I liked NoS) and are just into pvp and do not give two hoots who they piss off as long as they can /duel and pvp they could care less who it is with. Guilds that loose there vision and there leadership, die. You don't have to do anything to them, they do it to themselves. That is what happened to -DS- and will happen to guilds who loose site of there foundation.

Yes, we do need to gather The Core and have a meeting. A lot of stuff is going on that is wrong and is breaking the Core apart. The site is basically just becoming a place for Space event post and not much else nor is The Core united as it should be. I have a great passion for RID, The Empire, The Core... and I will bust heads if I have too to unite the Imperial PA's on this server like we once were during The Network.

We need a damn Imperial Vent channel... Rid Vent Channel and a IG Imperial chat channel.... Communication is the 1st step to fixing all this.

Also, Lexx... I want to rebuild an Imperial Palace like we had with the Network....I am tempted to plop it down on Naboo as for a Imperial location that all Imperial PA's would support. Where ever we put it this is something we need to speak to the Core leaders about and accomplish.

We need to light the Imperial Flames and get the Empire in ship-shape before I call out the Emperor to bash some heads together.

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:30 pm

The palace could maybe be near the Emperor's Retreat or another Imperial facility on Naboo.

Good to hear Reirae is going to handel the situation.

Regarding the CORE, it may be neccesary to start from scratch... We'll need a much stricter recruitment policy, similar to how Cairne ran things.

Issele · Post by **Issele** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:27 pm

LexxYovel wrote:The palace could maybe be near the Emperor's Retreat or another Imperial facility on Naboo.

Good to hear Reirae is going to handel the situation.

Regarding the CORE, it may be neccesary to start from scratch... We'll need a much stricter recruitment policy, similar to how Cairne ran things.

I agree with you regarding The Core

Theep · Post by **Theep** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:36 pm

Along with me my brother also plays swg. I was able to guess my brothers password and get on his account. My brother is in IMPHL, allowing me to spy on what has been going on with IMPHL. From what I can see IMPHL has no problem with RID at all, and Bumpn even said that he liked Lexx alot. If you want screen shots I can post them, I havent because I didnt want to have to erase my brothers name to protect him and im lazy with stuff like that anyways.

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:20 pm

IMO as long as the situation is rectified, the whos, hows and whys don't matter. The leaders of the various Imp guilds can dislike each other, but everyone needs to get along and work towards the common goal... which is maintaining a strong and united Imperial presence in the GCW while being seriously underpopulated.

Post by **Lexx Yovel** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:44 pm

Like I said, I patched things up with IMPHL, and Bumpn and I got along. In either case, the issue with IMPHL ended. Besides from being slightly abnoxious here and there, they are killing Rebels alongside us again, so that's all that matters!

Szul · Post by **Szul** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:55 am

LexxYovel wrote:Like I said, I patched things up with IMPHL, and Bumpn and I got along. In either case, the issue with IMPHL ended. Besides from being slightly abnoxious here and there, they are killing Rebels alongside us again, so that's all that matters!

Was a general comment towards the future of the Core.