Happy Halloween!!! (a.k.a. The Gun Debate Thread)

Kurke_Aumea · Post by **Kurke_Aumea** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:39 am

My gf is a history teacher. Do I have to bring her in here to teach you all a lesson??? lol

Waucod Meesman · Post by **Waucod Meesman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:48 pm

I can see it now "Hello I am Kurkes Girlfriend which I bet you are all shocked he has. I am he to learn you all some history!!!"

Leviathen · Post by **Leviathen** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:58 pm

Apium wrote:How is that losing the war?

a) None of the US's goals were achieved. War is generally won when one side achieves its goes.
b) US was occupied by British forces when the war ended, not the other way around.
c) The reason that the US didn't lose any territory during the treaty negotiations was the fact that Britain really didn't want any of the land, nor were they prepared to fight for it,
d) the goal of the British was to defend their land, and they did

the fact that a hectare of US soil wasn't taken doesn't mean the US didn't lose the war, though to be sure, it was a much MUCH more civil and mutually beneficial of a peace treaty than is usual.

Dragonus · Post by **Dragonus** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:01 pm

well we lost to vietnam... which was prob embarassing

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:35 pm

Leviathen wrote:
Apium wrote:How is that losing the war?

a) None of the US's goals were achieved. War is generally won when one side achieves its goes.
b) US was occupied by British forces when the war ended, not the other way around.
c) The reason that the US didn't lose any territory during the treaty negotiations was the fact that Britain really didn't want any of the land, nor were they prepared to fight for it,
d) the goal of the British was to defend their land, and they did

the fact that a hectare of US soil wasn't taken doesn't mean the US didn't lose the war, though to be sure, it was a much MUCH more civil and mutually beneficial of a peace treaty than is usual.

actually it wasn't beneficial at all, no one got anything. People just died.

Leviathen · Post by **Leviathen** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:20 pm

well if you are going to knitpick at my choice of words. I was just trying to point out that it was beneficially to both sides as no one lost anything (save the lives that were already taken)

Gesro · Post by **Gesro** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:28 pm

Obviously war is never good, but as far as war goes, it was fairly mild. They came to a fairly quick peace treaty and settled all of it without any country losing/gaining land or continueing the fighting, which would make it beneficial for bothsides, in that way.

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:34 pm

we kicked some ass new orleans though if you really want to get into it. 2000 british dead and only 13 american casualties. We didn't even have guns, we just threw whiskey and rocks.

Leviathen · Post by **Leviathen** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:11 am

That compared against the three american forts that surrendered without fighting, the american militia that refused to cross the border, and so forth

Waucod Meesman · Post by **Waucod Meesman** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:29 am

I bet those brits didn't even have a chance at a hangover... right after they pass out the rocks start flying the Americans probably lost those guys cause they got eaten by the Kraken!!!!

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:25 am

Leviathen wrote:That compared against the three american forts that surrendered without fighting, the american militia that refused to cross the border, and so forth

but at least they weren't dead. America is all about every man for himself. Which is fine by me, I'm not patriotic at all. Example: I refuse to say the pledge of Allegiance when everyone else does during school.

Finnus Malorin · Post by **Finnus Malorin** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:33 am

On halloween I'm going to be sitting by my dumpsters dressed as a hobo,
that way I don't have to buy a costume.

Apium · Post by **Apium** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:34 pm

Finnus Malorin wrote:On halloween I'm going to be sitting by my dumpsters dressed as a hobo,
that way I don't have to buy a costume.

you have to buy hobo clothes though

Jaysont · Post by **Jaysont** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:58 pm

i thought he did that anyone :shock:

just joking

i'm still going as the crow i got the same clothes he wears and gonna get my sister to do my face makeup

RIP Brandon Lee

Waucod Meesman · Post by **Waucod Meesman** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:01 pm

Buddy Holly!!!!